Comments on: Nothing to My Name / 一无所有 http://chinahopelive.net/2009/05/09/nothing-to-my-name-%e4%b8%80%e6%97%a0%e6%89%80%e6%9c%89 A cross-cultural adventure with the personal side of China. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:34:37 +0000 hourly 1 By: Joel 大江 http://chinahopelive.net/2009/05/09/nothing-to-my-name-%e4%b8%80%e6%97%a0%e6%89%80%e6%9c%89/comment-page-1#comment-53059 Joel 大江 Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:06:15 +0000 http://chinahopelive.net/?p=3395#comment-53059 @mamasa, Thank you for sharing your experience with us. I imagine it must be very difficult, not knowing who you can trust or what information is true. The way you described the situation is very interesting: "Until the event is spoken in public it doesn't exist!" It seems like that describes China right now. @mamasa,

Thank you for sharing your experience with us. I imagine it must be very difficult, not knowing who you can trust or what information is true. The way you described the situation is very interesting: “Until the event is spoken in public it doesn’t exist!” It seems like that describes China right now.

]]> By: Chinese Song: 宝贝 (Baby) by 张悬 (Zhāng Xuán) | China Hope Live http://chinahopelive.net/2009/05/09/nothing-to-my-name-%e4%b8%80%e6%97%a0%e6%89%80%e6%9c%89/comment-page-1#comment-40217 Chinese Song: 宝贝 (Baby) by 张悬 (Zhāng Xuán) | China Hope Live Tue, 22 Mar 2011 00:12:21 +0000 http://chinahopelive.net/?p=3395#comment-40217 [...] Nothing to My Name / 一无所有 [...] [...] Nothing to My Name / 一无所有 [...]

]]> By: Tristano http://chinahopelive.net/2009/05/09/nothing-to-my-name-%e4%b8%80%e6%97%a0%e6%89%80%e6%9c%89/comment-page-1#comment-16953 Tristano Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:51:09 +0000 http://chinahopelive.net/?p=3395#comment-16953 Thank you so much for the download. I've been wanting to learn this song for ages and finally found what I was looking for. Now if only I could find the same for some Carabao songs... Thank you so much for the download. I’ve been wanting to learn this song for ages and finally found what I was looking for.
Now if only I could find the same for some Carabao songs…

]]> By: Mouse Loves Rice — 老鼠爱大米 | China Hope Live http://chinahopelive.net/2009/05/09/nothing-to-my-name-%e4%b8%80%e6%97%a0%e6%89%80%e6%9c%89/comment-page-1#comment-9425 Mouse Loves Rice — 老鼠爱大米 | China Hope Live Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:42:02 +0000 http://chinahopelive.net/?p=3395#comment-9425 [...] Nothing to My Name – 一无所有 [...] [...] Nothing to My Name – 一无所有 [...]

]]> By: mamasa http://chinahopelive.net/2009/05/09/nothing-to-my-name-%e4%b8%80%e6%97%a0%e6%89%80%e6%9c%89/comment-page-1#comment-8849 mamasa Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:28:11 +0000 http://chinahopelive.net/?p=3395#comment-8849 Hi, Joel! Today I found your (this) website and I like it a lot. It took me just few houres (grin) to got to this topic. At fist, please forgive me a mistakes, I´m not fluent english writer. Second - with this theme I feel shame each time. It´s long twenty years history... At THAT time, me and my husband were first time abroad from iron curtain in Canada. We saw news in tv and read about it in newspapers. But you know, we (specially me, husband is better in languages) didn´t understand to context and from home we had been taught that one can´t believe western journalists because they used to lie a lot! In fact that was just bigger lie. When we returned home (everyone was surprised why we came back?!) there was nothing in our news about this event, nothing about china at all so after some time I desided that they were right and it was definitelly not so big deal to be mentioned. I was so stupid at that time! After some months there happend a velvet revolution in my own country and I took part on it (of course) and it was like waking up from strange dream. Untill today I feel shame that I wasn´t talk to people about this Tienanmen events, but someone outside (maybe you know it) can´t understand that in that time in socialist country (same as china today) you can hear the truth only from your good friend and that it is very hard way for truth to be widely known. Untill the event is spoken in public it doesn´t exist! And that is real life in china today, I think. By the way, I found Cui Jian on youtube some weeks ago and I like him a lot. But it is typical that he own said that he can´t be believed because he used to pretend. Every one in socialist regime used to pretend, maybe more than in capitalism :) it is just a way to survive without serious troubles. Hi, Joel! Today I found your (this) website and I like it a lot. It took me just few houres (grin) to got to this topic.
At fist, please forgive me a mistakes, I´m not fluent english writer.
Second – with this theme I feel shame each time. It´s long twenty years history…
At THAT time, me and my husband were first time abroad from iron curtain in Canada. We saw news in tv and read about it in newspapers. But you know, we (specially me, husband is better in languages) didn´t understand to context and from home we had been taught that one can´t believe western journalists because they used to lie a lot! In fact that was just bigger lie. When we returned home (everyone was surprised why we came back?!) there was nothing in our news about this event, nothing about china at all so after some time I desided that they were right and it was definitelly not so big deal to be mentioned. I was so stupid at that time! After some months there happend a velvet revolution in my own country and I took part on it (of course) and it was like waking up from strange dream.
Untill today I feel shame that I wasn´t talk to people about this Tienanmen events, but someone outside (maybe you know it) can´t understand that in that time in socialist country (same as china today) you can hear the truth only from your good friend and that it is very hard way for truth to be widely known. Untill the event is spoken in public it doesn´t exist! And that is real life in china today, I think.
By the way, I found Cui Jian on youtube some weeks ago and I like him a lot. But it is typical that he own said that he can´t be believed because he used to pretend. Every one in socialist regime used to pretend, maybe more than in capitalism :) it is just a way to survive without serious troubles.

]]> By: JC http://chinahopelive.net/2009/05/09/nothing-to-my-name-%e4%b8%80%e6%97%a0%e6%89%80%e6%9c%89/comment-page-1#comment-7455 JC Sun, 04 Oct 2009 04:18:28 +0000 http://chinahopelive.net/?p=3395#comment-7455 a song that echos a generation of vast and hazy youth, confused with past, present, and future of china, due to at the point of both political and economic change. with china been on the track of more stability, the sound of the song never stops to echo in our hearts, up to this day. - a fully blooded chinese with american living experience born in 80's a song that echos a generation of vast and hazy youth, confused with past, present, and future of china, due to at the point of both political and economic change.
with china been on the track of more stability, the sound of the song never stops to echo in our hearts, up to this day.
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a fully blooded chinese with american living experience born in 80′s

]]> By: Joel http://chinahopelive.net/2009/05/09/nothing-to-my-name-%e4%b8%80%e6%97%a0%e6%89%80%e6%9c%89/comment-page-1#comment-6790 Joel Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:49:10 +0000 http://chinahopelive.net/?p=3395#comment-6790 Interesting Cui Jian/一无所有 stuff going around the Chinese internet lately. This song was performed in the Super Girl's competition (watch <a href="http://6.cn/watch/11587187.html" target="http://6.cn/watch/11587187.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> or <a href="http://v.ku6.com/show/rl0EBNRhdKnD-Aul.html" target="http://v.ku6.com/show/rl0EBNRhdKnD-Aul.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> or <a href="http://www.danwei.org/music/super_girl_sings_cui_jian.php" target="http://www.danwei.org/music/super_girl_sings_cui_jian.php" rel="nofollow">here</a>), and that led to some <a href="http://www.danwei.org/music/cui_jian_on_the_square.php" target="http://www.danwei.org/music/cui_jian_on_the_square.php" rel="nofollow">unhappy commentary</a> about what Cui Jian means, or doesn't mean, in China today. Also, a bootleg recording of his most sensitive concert has surfaced online <a href="http://www.songtaste.com/song/1471086/" target="http://www.songtaste.com/song/1471086/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I'm adding links to the post above, too. Interesting Cui Jian/一无所有 stuff going around the Chinese internet lately. This song was performed in the Super Girl’s competition (watch here or here or here), and that led to some unhappy commentary about what Cui Jian means, or doesn’t mean, in China today.

Also, a bootleg recording of his most sensitive concert has surfaced online here.

I’m adding links to the post above, too.

]]> By: Brother Who Sleeps in the Top Bunk — 睡在我上铺的兄弟 | China Hope Live http://chinahopelive.net/2009/05/09/nothing-to-my-name-%e4%b8%80%e6%97%a0%e6%89%80%e6%9c%89/comment-page-1#comment-6393 Brother Who Sleeps in the Top Bunk — 睡在我上铺的兄弟 | China Hope Live Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:32:06 +0000 http://chinahopelive.net/?p=3395#comment-6393 [...] Nothing to My Name / 一无所有 [...] [...] Nothing to My Name / 一无所有 [...]

]]> By: Liang Shanbo & Juliet — 梁山伯与茱丽叶 | China Hope Live http://chinahopelive.net/2009/05/09/nothing-to-my-name-%e4%b8%80%e6%97%a0%e6%89%80%e6%9c%89/comment-page-1#comment-6347 Liang Shanbo & Juliet — 梁山伯与茱丽叶 | China Hope Live Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:14:49 +0000 http://chinahopelive.net/?p=3395#comment-6347 [...] Nothing to My Name – 一无所有 [...] [...] Nothing to My Name – 一无所有 [...]

]]> By: Joel http://chinahopelive.net/2009/05/09/nothing-to-my-name-%e4%b8%80%e6%97%a0%e6%89%80%e6%9c%89/comment-page-1#comment-6305 Joel Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:56:57 +0000 http://chinahopelive.net/?p=3395#comment-6305 Looking back at <a href="http://chinahopelive.net/2009/06/04/a-16-year-old-priviledged-beijinger-in-canada-on-this-day-in-history" target="http://chinahopelive.net/2009/06/04/a-16-year-old-priviledged-beijinger-in-canada-on-this-day-in-history" title="A 16-year-old priviledged Beijinger in Canada on this day in history" rel="nofollow">that post</a>, I can see how it could sound like I'm manipulating my student. Your questions are completely fair and I agree with you that it would be very wrong for me to take advantage of that kind of situation and push my political views on students. But I don't think that's what I did in this case. Just to clarify: we never actually discussed the event, and I never offered any views on it, other than what was written in the newspaper, but we didn't even read the articles anyway (her English is good, but it would take her a long time, lots of energy, and a pocket dictionary to actually read through a newspaper article). She responded passionately to the topic and the photos on the front page, but my response to her (partially trying to calm her down so we could get on with the rest of the session) was, "I'm not trying to tell you what to think about it. I just want you to see that today the whole world is writing about China." I think I also told her something like, "Today is a special day in China. Do you know why?" That's really pretty much all I said about it, aside from showing her the photos in the paper. She didn't give me much of a chance to say anything more anyway! An observer of our conversation would say that she was the one trying to shape my opinion rather than the other way around. The "homework" that I mentioned was simply "go google this and this and see what you find." I didn't follow up on it. I never assigned this student any real homework because my job was simply to assist her with her school work. Of course I was deliberately exposing her to media that she won't get back home (or at least making her aware that it was availbale; we never did actually read the articles). My intentions were just to make her more aware of a major piece of her own history that is largely forbidden to her back home, and give her an idea of how her country is perceived in Canada. As this is a major historical event recognized around the world, I don't think it is unethical to draw her attention to it. Trying to make her think certain things about it, whether through direct or subtle means, would be a different matter. Looking back at that post, I can see how it could sound like I’m manipulating my student. Your questions are completely fair and I agree with you that it would be very wrong for me to take advantage of that kind of situation and push my political views on students. But I don’t think that’s what I did in this case.

Just to clarify: we never actually discussed the event, and I never offered any views on it, other than what was written in the newspaper, but we didn’t even read the articles anyway (her English is good, but it would take her a long time, lots of energy, and a pocket dictionary to actually read through a newspaper article). She responded passionately to the topic and the photos on the front page, but my response to her (partially trying to calm her down so we could get on with the rest of the session) was, “I’m not trying to tell you what to think about it. I just want you to see that today the whole world is writing about China.” I think I also told her something like, “Today is a special day in China. Do you know why?” That’s really pretty much all I said about it, aside from showing her the photos in the paper. She didn’t give me much of a chance to say anything more anyway! An observer of our conversation would say that she was the one trying to shape my opinion rather than the other way around.

The “homework” that I mentioned was simply “go google this and this and see what you find.” I didn’t follow up on it. I never assigned this student any real homework because my job was simply to assist her with her school work.

Of course I was deliberately exposing her to media that she won’t get back home (or at least making her aware that it was availbale; we never did actually read the articles). My intentions were just to make her more aware of a major piece of her own history that is largely forbidden to her back home, and give her an idea of how her country is perceived in Canada. As this is a major historical event recognized around the world, I don’t think it is unethical to draw her attention to it. Trying to make her think certain things about it, whether through direct or subtle means, would be a different matter.

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