Scene clips & screen stills from “1911″ (we were extras!)

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Below are some screen stills and scene clips that some friends and I were extras in for the Jackie Chan/Chinese propaganda film “1911″ 《辛亥革命》.

For some photos from filming and info about the 1911 Revolution, see:

You can see all the photos and screen stills at the photo gallery:

Denver Library scene

1911 movie: Denver Library scene (YouTube)

Sun Zhongshan speech scene

1911 movie: Sun Zhongshan speech (YouTube)

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“Mao’s Great Famine” and China’s moral landscape

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| China books & DVDs | Chinese history | Cultural Revolution | Great Leap Forward | Mao's Great Famine |

The recent tragic death of a toddler who was run over twice while eighteen passersby ignored her (all caught on camera) has scandalized China and provoked disturbing questions about the moral state of Chinese society. I suspect a significant part (though not all) of the answer to those questions is found in the legacy of the Great Leap Forward (大跃进), which is brutally catalogued in the 2010 book Mao’s Great Famine. (Other, deeper cultural factors are explored here.)

Of the 45 million abnormal deaths during the Great Leap Forward (大跃进), one to three million were suicides and 2.5 million people died from beatings/torture. Most of the rest starved to death, though many were murdered outright, worked to death or deliberately starved. That was Mainland China, 1958-1962. It’s been called “one of the most deadly mass killings in human history” [pp.x-xi], and eventually led to the Cultural Revolution.

The stats above are the findings of Dutch historian Dr. Frank Dikötter in Mao’s Great Famine: the History of China’s Most Devastating Catastrophe, 1958-1962, which claims more accurate statistics compiled from archive sources not previously available, and connects the dysfunction and decisions of the central government with their end results at the village and family level. Dikötter also connects the dots between the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution at the political level and at street level, showing how the Cultural Revolution was rooted politically and historically in the Great Leap Forward, and that when it comes to the violence and abuse of the Red Guards, the Cultural Revolution actually invented very little. He pins the blame for the disaster on Mao and the central government and demonstrates how government policies greatly exacerbated so-called natural disasters like flooding (on which the excess deaths from the time period are officially blamed).

That all interests me, but what interests me even more is the experience of that generation of Chinese at a personal, family and village level, and how that might relate to the present. Particularly the impact the Great Leap Forward must have had on relationships and moral standards at the time, during the Cultural Revolution, and down to today. While this isn’t the focus of Dikötter’s book, in several instances Dikötter discusses the impact of forced collectivisation, the Party’s culture of violence, and mass starvation on relationships and morality.

[C]oercion, terror and systematic violence were the foundation of the Great Leap Forward. [p.x]

Mao… extend[ed] the military structure of the Party to all of society… Every aspect of society was organized along military lines… in a continuous revolution. These were not merely martial terms rhetorically deployed to heighten group cohesion. All the leaders ere military men attuned to the rigours of warfare. They had spent twenty years fighting a guerrilla war in extreme conditions of deprivation… They glorified violence in which the end justified the means. In 1962, havng lost millions of people in his province, Li Jingquan compared the Great Leap Forward to the Long March, in which only one in ten had made it to the end: “We are not weak, we are stronger, we have kept the backbone.”
[...]
The brute force with which the country had been conquered was now unleashed upon the economy — regardless of casualty figures… The country became a giant boot camp in which ordinary people no longer had a say in the tasks they were commanded to carry out… They had to follow orders, failing which they risked punishment. Whatever checks existed on violence — religion, law, community, family — were simply swept away. [pp.298-9]

In a moral universe in which means justified the ends, many would be prepared to become the Chairman’s willing instruments, casting aside every idea about right and wrong to achieve the ends he envisaged. [pp.102-3]

Despite the vision of social order the regime projected at home and abroad… So destructive was radical collectivization that that at every level the population tried to circumvent, undermine or exploit the master plan, secretly giving full scope to the profit motive that the Party tried to eliminate. As famine spread, the very survival of an ordinary person came increasingly to depend on the ability to lie, charm, hide, steal, cheat, pilfer, forage, smuggle, trick, manipulate or otherwise outwit the state… [T]hese phenomena were not so much the grit that stopped the machinery as the oil that prevented the system from coming to a complete standstill… Obfuscation was the communist way of life. People lied to survive… [p.xiv]

Collectivization forced everybody, at one point or another, to make grim moral compromises. Routine degradations thus went hand in hand with mass destruction. [p.xv]

Life in the countryside has always been tough in China, and strict observance of traditional notions of filial piety would simply have been beyond the reach of all but the wealthiest households before the communist takeover… But in most cases, before 1949, [the elderly] could count on a measure of care and dignity: their mere survival demanded respect.

Yet by the time of the Cultural Revolution a completely different set of values seemed to dominate, as young students tortured their teachers and Red Guards attacked elderly people. When did the moral universe turn upside down? While the Party was steeped in a culture of violence… the real watershed was the Great Leap Forward… [T]he people’s communes left children without their mothers, women without their husbands, and the elderly without relatives: these three family bonds were destroyed as the state was substituted for the family. As if this were not bad enough, collectivisation was followed by the agony of famine. As hunger stalked an already distressed social landscape, family cohesion unraveled further; starvation tested every tie to the limit. [p.263]

If that was the relational and moral world of your grandparents, which was reinforced again less than a decade later in the Cultural Revolution, wouldn’t you expect a society where injured toddlers are left to die in the road (to reference only one of a long list of examples)? Previously on this blog I’ve pointed out aspects of China’s pre-Liberation cultural heritage that encourage or at least enable the shocking, apparently amoral state of contemporary Chinese society. And I think that’s valid. But I also think it’s crucial to highlight the legacy of the Great Leap Forward in tearing apart the social and moral fabric of Chinese society (not to mention the decades of civil war and foreign invasion before that). With that as the immediate social and moral inheritance of today’s generations, and given the enabling cultural heritage, the stark mutual disregard for the basic welfare fellow human beings, while not excusable, is certainly more understandable. Just reading this book, with its endless, gruesome train of anecdotes, is enough to kill off a small piece of your humanity — but what if you’d actually lived through it?

My parents were born in the mid-50s. That means they would have been young children during the Great Leap Forward and possibly old enough to remember some things. But Chinese who are now in their 60s and 70s certainly remember. It’s incredible to imagine that the old guys on the corner who introduced me to báijiǔ 白酒 and tried to teach me Chinese chess 象棋 lived through this, at least as children. Mainlanders’ general relationship to the state and its resources and the obvious lack of general participation in ‘civil society’ makes so much more sense after glimpsing what the grandparents experienced.

So I recommend the book, with the suggestion that you become aware of the criticisms noted in the wikipedia entry, and with the warning that the brutality catalogued in its pages — which goes far beyond the sheer numbers or the biological and social nature of famine and starvation to the almost incomprehensible animalistic abuse that became routine — will gnaw on your humanity.

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P.S. – I found these photos by doing a Google image search for 大跃进 (Great Leap Forward) and 超英赶美 (“Surpass Britain, Catch Up with America”). Many propaganda images from the era are explained at ChinesePosters.net here and here. Apparently the only images publicly available are propaganda photos and posters.

P.P.SThe cover photo of the book “incorporates a 1962 image of Chinese refugees to Hong Kong begging for food as they are deported back to China.”.

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Prostitution in Tianjin, China — anecdotes, STD vocab, and how one group of local women is fighting back

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| China: life & times | Learning Mandarin | Places | Sex & Sexuality | Tianjin |

Even an untrained, inattentive eye will notice evidence of the pervasive prostitution industry in Tianjin. If you’re clued in to the typical indicators, you’ll see that it’s a flourishing open secret, hiding in plain sight. Study some Chinese and read up on Chinese society, and it will ooze all the more out of your increasingly legible and intelligible surroundings. In the especially attuned gaze of a group of local women who are actively reaching out to the girls and trying to provide them with alternatives, prostitution in Tianjin is like an advanced form of malignant cancer, metastasized deep into the cultural and economic fabric of the city. And Tianjin is certainly not special in this regard.

Prostitution is so ubiquitous that the clueless can accidentally find themselves in very, shall we say, unintended circumstances. It needs no red light district. Walking along the nicely treed side street to our former apartment complex, with the WèiJīn canal (卫津河) and ZǐJīnShān Rd. (紫金山路) on your right and buildings on your left, you’ll find, in order: a first-floor window converted into a sex toy shop, a bar with prostitutes, a restaurant, a bath house with prostitutes, a karaoke club with prostitutes, a preschool, our apartment buildings, and a foot-massage parlour with prostitutes.

I’m reminded of all this because I’m reading Factory Girls and came across this bit describing the garbage-strewn side streets of a factory city in the south [p.111]:

the walls of the buildings were plastered with ads for gonorrhea and syphilis clinics; in China these flyers broke out like rashes wherever prostitution thrived.

But this actually describes our second Tianjin apartment complex, which is full of retired university professors and their families, with an elementary school across the street, and is, I want to emphasize, a normal Tianjin neighbourhood; we weren’t living in a migrant worker ghetto. And it’s saturated with these kinds of ads. There are six of them just on one side of the main gate, and we accidentally ended up broadcasting three more all over North America when we announced our second pregnancy via a photo taken outside the entrance to our stairwell, which was also plastered with them. Basically no matter where you look in our neighbourhood, if you can read Chinese you see “VENEREAL DISEASE, GONORRHEA, SYPHILIS” in big bold black font. Here’s a closer look at one ad, with a partial translation (mouseover the Chinese for pronunciation):


Venereal Disease One-shot Effectiveness
性病
Imported Western medicine, one shot gives the desired effect, will never recur
进口西药 见效 永不复发
Gonorrhea (specialized outpatient service) syphilis
淋病[专科门诊]梅毒
Inflamed glans, prostatitis, spermiduct pus, painful and difficult urination,
龟头红肿前列腺尿尿
syphilis buds, pubic lice and itching, acute viral genital warts, vaginal odor
梅毒花蕾尖锐湿疣白带恶臭
Acute viral genital warts (cauliflower-shaped granulation/anal warts) removed then
尖锐湿疣[菜花肉芽/肛门湿疣]当时脱落
Chlamydia, mycoplasma, non-gonococcal urethritis
衣原体 支原体 非淋菌性尿道

So you can imagine how becoming partially literate in Chinese can change the feel of a place.

In the months before we temporarily left Tianjin for the second time, Jessica was volunteering with a group of women who reach out to local women in prostitution. Originally, part of the idea was to help these girls find other jobs, but it was difficult finding people willing to hire them. So the group created jobs by starting a jewelry workshop as a viable first big step out of prostitution.

Related stuff on sex and Chinese society:

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The suspiciously Orwellian children’s story 《鸭子农夫》 “Farmer Duck” Chinese-Pinyin-English read-along

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| Family | Foreign baby in China | Learning Mandarin | Propaganda |

The children’s story 鸭子农夫 (Farmer Duck) is fun to read out loud, usefully repetitive for language learning, and contains some interesting vocab. And as a special China-related bonus, it’s ominously, vaguely Orwellian. If you’re the kind of person who doesn’t let your kids watch The Smurfs for political reasons, then you probably won’t like this book.

You can mouseover the Chinese text below to see the pronunciation and translation, or download a PDF that has the Chinese, pinyin, and back-translated English.

Download: Yazi-Nongfu.pdf

鸭子农夫

从前鸭子农夫一起生活鸭子所有的活儿农夫只管整天

鸭子回来
农夫嚷嚷:“活儿怎么样?”
鸭子回答:“嘎嘎!”

鸭子回来
农夫嚷嚷:“活儿怎么样?”
鸭子回答:“嘎嘎!”

鸭子
农夫嚷嚷:“活儿怎么样?”
鸭子回答:“嘎嘎!”

农夫不成样子
鸭子没日没夜辛苦干活快要崩溃

活儿怎么样?”
嘎嘎!”
活儿怎么样?”
嘎嘎!”

活儿怎么样?”
嘎嘎!”
活儿怎么样?”
嘎嘎……”

活儿怎么样?”
嘎嘎……”
活儿怎么样?”
嘎嘎……”

可怜鸭子伤心

很爱鸭子他们朋友感到难过
于是大家月色精心安排起第二天一早行动
哞哞!”
咩咩!”
咕咕!”
这么

还没农场静悄悄
后门偷偷农夫房子

大家轻手轻脚走廊楼梯吱吱作响

他们一起农夫使劲开始摇晃
农夫惊醒嚷嚷起来:“活儿……”

哞哞!”
咩咩!”
咕咕!”
大家农夫叫嚷
大家挤挤撞撞
农夫轱辘轱辘下来
重重地板

农夫拔腿就跑紧追不舍
哞哞!”
咩咩!”
咕咕!”

一直小路……
哞哞!”
穿过田野……
咩咩!”
翻过……
咕咕!”
农夫再也没有回来……

清晨鸭子疲惫不堪院子
等着——
活儿怎么样?”
竟然没有说话

回来
嘎嘎?”鸭子
哞哞!”
咩咩!”
咕咕!”
大家事情经过告诉鸭子

嘎嘎” “哞哞” “咩咩” “咕咕
从此以后农场充满欢乐声音

And they all lived happily ever after:


“Four legs good, two legs better!”

Download: Yazi-Nongfu.pdf

Other children’s story Chinese translation read-alongs:

We’ve also given some popular Chinese songs similar treatment (plus guitar chords!):

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China’s (not-so-)new god

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| China web debris | China: life & times | Chinese folk religion | Meta-narratives |

A visit to a temple prompts some interesting remarks about popular religion in China:
“The Goddess of Mercy has turned into a goddess of Fortune, and for a Westerner like me, the place seemed to be an Eastern variation of a Marian cult.
[...]
The cult of “good luck” has always been a factor in Chinese society. But in recent decades, this cult has achieved an unprecedented renaissance. …wealth… seems to be the topic of every conversation, the motive for every action toward ones family or beyond. It is part of the global manifestation of modern “low paganism,” and in such a society one cannot even have the status of personhood without one’s value in money.”

For the rest see: The Cult of Prosperity.

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狗血

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| Chinese take-out |

Pronounced: gǒu xiě
Literally: dog blood
Means: cheesy, cliché, melodramatic, contrived. As in, “This Korean soap opera is too dog blood!” 我看的韩国剧太狗血了! Wǒ kànde hánguó jù tài gǒu xiě le!

I’ve wondered how to express “cheesy” in Chinese for a long time. The World of Chinese gives an interesting explanation of where this gory term came from and how it evolved into the meaning it has today.

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Steve Jobs, Apple, China and Us [updated]

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| China web debris | China: life & times | Migrant workers | People | Propaganda |

I don’t personally have any feelings about Steve Jobs and this comment ultimately isn’t about him. But I do have feelings about the interconnected world of the products we buy and the people who make them. So when we think about Steve Jobs, the Apple legacy, and how we all love Apple products (which are great, no question), let’s remember that — and here comes an unpopular bit of reality — the factories making our Apple products have to hang suicide nets on the buildings to stop the workers from jumping.

Just google “Foxconn suicide nets Apple”. Or see:

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We were extras in “1911″ — a big-budget Chinese propaganda Jackie Chan movie! (here are some photos)

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| 1911 | Chinese history | Chinese movies | Photo posts | Propaganda | Running wild in the streets | Xinhai (1911) Revolution |

Filming 1911

It’s maybe not as big as that other big propaganda movie from this year, “The Founding of the Party,” because without the Party reality itself would cease to exist and Sun Yat-sen was into some stuff that the Party doesn’t really go for, but this is still big stuff. “1911″ is a big-budget Jackie Chan Chinese propaganda epic commemorating the 100th anniversary of the 1911 Revolution (辛亥革命, see below for historical info/links), with “over 70 famous Chinese actors” including Winston Chao (赵文瑄) as Sun Yat-sen (孫中山) and Lǐ Bīngbīng (李冰冰) as Jackie Chan’s wife.

And we were extras for two days of filming! Or, some friends and I were; Jessica had to stay home. So if we’re reeeally lucky I or someone we know will get part of an appendage in the background of a scene for a split-second.

On our first day of filming they needed foreigners to be political delegates for a scene where Sun Yatsen gives the speech announcing that he’s giving up the presidency of the brand new republic (knowing that he can’t retain power due to Yuan Shikai). Basically we stood around, and occasionally they filmed us standing around, clapping for Winston Chao/Sun Yat-sen, and acting surprised when he makes his announcement.

The second day was better: we were foreigners sitting in the “Colorado Denver Public Library”. Sun Yatsen is in the States on a fundraising trip. He comes into the library, starts reading the paper and discovers in the headlines that revolution has broken out in China. He chokes on his food in surprise, and we foreigners look up from our books at the disturbance.

Here are a couple photos, with more in the photo gallery.


With Natalie on a veeeery cold set.

Dingle (aka James) poses cooperatively so I can get a shot of Winston Chao (赵文瑄).

The “Colorado Denver Public Library”.

The books were real.

More photos in the photo gallery!

Competing 1911 historical narratives

The 1911 Revolution marked the official end of five million years of unbroken imperial rule in China (this other propaganda movie is about the unification of China and the beginning of imperial rule). For a quick history lesson:

  • China 1911: The Birth of China’s Tragedy (History Today)
    “…for all the celebrations in the mainland and Taiwan this autumn, the revolution of 1911-12 brought no real solution and left China facing decades of suffering.”
  • Reading Round-Up: The Xinhai Revolution, One Hundred Years Later
  • The Xinhai Revolution (Wikipedia)
    “The Xinhai Revolution…, also known as the Revolution of 1911 or the Chinese Revolution, was a revolution that overthrew China’s last imperial dynasty, the Qing (1644-1912), and established the Republic of China. The revolution, which began with the Wuchang Uprising on October 10, 1911 and ended with the abdication of the “Last Emperor” Puyi on February 12, 1912, is named after the Xinhai year in the sexagenary cycle of the Chinese calendar. The Xinhai Revolution marks the end of over 2,000 years of Imperial China and the beginning of China’s Republican era.”

And here’s an intro to the battle between Taiwan and China over the 1911 historical narrative:

  • What really happened on Oct. 10, 1911?
    “In the run up to the 100th anniversary of the Xinhai Revolution, Beijing has been performing a spectacular tightrope walk. Officials have been told that it should be a grand affair, but must be careful not to upstage the celebration of the Party’s 90th anniversary. This is because even though Sun Yat-sen is seen by many Chinese as the father of modern China, his ideas do not fit the country’s current direction.”
  • One revolution, two interpretations
    “Taiwan and China have taken different approaches to commemorating the 100th anniversary of the Wuchang Uprising, which took place on Oct. 10, 1911 and marked the beginning of a series of revolutions that eventually ended dynastic rule and led to the establishment of the Republic of China.
    [...]
    “These differences are created by the complex history of and sensitive political disputes between the two sides of the Taiwan Strait, who are both trying to put forward their interpretation of history as definitive.”
  • China’s Communist Party celebrates 1911 Revolution in low key
    “Naysayers note however that celebrations for Sun Yat-sen and 1911 Revolution (Xinhai) are low-key compared to those in Taiwan, where Sun is seen as the ‘Father of the Nation’, and an inspiration for the country’s cardinal principles: nationalism, democracy and people’s wellbeing. Others believe that Sun’s low profile is probably designed not to overshadow the 90th anniversary of the Communist Party, celebrated last July.”
  • A Century After Xinhai: Whose Revolution?
  • 1911: the Xinhai Year of Revolution 辛亥革命
    “A hundred years on the Xinhai remains a controversial period. The year 2011 started with Ma Ying-jeou 馬英九 in Taiwan lauding the Xinhai centenary… On the other side of the Taiwan Strait reflections are not quite as sanguine. The previous official monopoly over the interpretation of history has long since been undermined.”
  • Profound shift as China marches back to Mao
    “Both the Communist Party and dem0cr@tic activists claim the Xinhai Revolution as part of their historical ancestry.

    “”The left, in the sense of representing anti-dem0cr@tic dictatorship, does not own revolutionary legitimacy in China,” said David Kelly, research director at China Policy in Beijing and a visiting professor at Peking University. “The anniversary of 1911 brings into play the fundamental decision between social dem0cr@cy and revolutionary dictatorship.”"

If any interesting movie reviews come out, or if we get some incriminating screen stills, I’ll post them here.

Scene Clips & Screen Stills! [2011-10-30 update]

The movie’s out, and you can see video clips of the scenes we’re in and screen stills of us in action here:

The photo gallery has been updated with all the new screen stills.

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Interview with Chinese exile, women’s rights campaigner and founder of All Girls Allowed

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| China web debris | China: life & times |

CT has a wide-raging interview with the Chinese exile who founded All Girls Allowed to campaign for Chinese women against sex-selective abortion, the One Child Policy and patriarchal Chinese traditions, in which she discusses:

  • the relationship between Tiananmen and Chinese Christianity,
  • ‘Where was God during Tiananmen?’,
  • her own abortions,
  • what Christianity has to say to Chinese patriarchal traditions,
  • and, of course, gendercide, Chinese women’s suicide rates, bride trafficking, and the One Child Policy.

Saving China’s Daughters: Each day in China, 35,000 baby girls are aborted and 500 women commit suicide. One freedom fighter won’t take it any longer.

I’d love to quote some interesting bits but this one’s too sensitive for the blog. Just go read the interview. There are previous news articles on her and All Girls Allowed here: One Chinese woman’s fight against gendercide.

For more about abortion and gendercide in China, and its impact on North America, see: “Painless”, “cozy”, “cheerful”, “3-minute”, “sweet dream” abortions in Tianjin, China.

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“China’s Oprah” on the upcoming generations and the power of social media

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| China web debris | China: life & times |

Not the most amazing TED talk ever, but full marks for doing it in a second language. I thought this quote was interesting: “China is soon to pass the U.S. as the #1 market for luxury brands…but half of those consumers are earning a salary below 2000USD. They’re not rich at all. They’re taking those bags and clothes as a sense of identity and social status.”
Video: Oprah of China offers insight into the next generation of young Chinese citizens

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    Three recent news articles (and one response) return the spotlight to the mammoth electronics factories in China that make most of our favourite electronics, pointing out what everybody knows and no one wants to think about:

    Happy Chinese workers spell the end of affordable tech (ZDNet)
    "Human and worker rights reforms in China would have serious negative consequences for the efficiency and cost of the gadget supply chain.
    [...]
    "Foxconn’s client list reads like a celebrity tech roster that includes Hewlett-Packard, Dell, Intel, Lenovo, IBM, Cisco/Linksys, Netgear, Microsoft, Sharp, Sony, Motorola, Asus, Acer and Vizio... tablet runners and e-reader champions Amazon and Barnes & Noble. Yes, your Kindles and Nooks are also made by the very same companies with the same awful working conditions that make products for Apple."

    The dark side of shiny Apple products (CBS News)
    "...our most popular electronic devices are largely made by hand ... MANY hands, as it turns out ... hands that often are very over-worked, or so industry's critics contend."
    [...]
    ""I met workers who were 12. Do you really think Apple doesn't know?"

    "But what was news were the suicides..."

    In China, Human Costs Are Built Into an iPad (NYT)
    and
    BSR: New York Times’ Apple-Foxconn article contains untruths, inaccuracies, and misleading info (Mac Daily News)

    - 2012/02/06

    Those aren't Chinese New Year's fireworks; they're "recreational munitions"

    From Nankai Rob's Chinese New Year 2012 post "Spring Festival Time. . .Lock and Load":
    "...parties are held on a scale so massive that Caligula would have nodded in approval, and enough recreational munitions are set off to make the Battle of Waterloo feel like a suburban bar mitzvah. You’ll notice my careful word choice here: “recreational munitions” rather than “fireworks.” “Fireworks” as a term carries with it more celebratory, even innocent connotations, but you can’t define Chinese celebratory fireworks by the intent behind them. Certainly they’re set off with great excitement and joy, but you can, after all, also lob a grenade into a dumpster with great excitement and joy, and most of what is being set off these days qualifies for inclusion in the dumpster-grenade category. So: recreational munitions."

    For more about the genuinely stunning Chinese New Year fireworks phenomenon with photos and video, see:

    Happy Chinese New Year!

    - 2012/01/22

    Tension rising with Mainland students in American universities

    Interesting observations at China Law Blog about how Mainland Chinese students studying in the USA -- in contrast to Chinese from other countries -- are apparently generating a lot of anger among the American students: Chinese Students In America. It's Bad Out There.

    It seems that Mainland Chinese attitudes toward education don't play well among their American classmates. For example:

    "They cheat all the time. It is pretty unbelievable how often I have seen them cheating. I am always complaining to my professors about this, but they usually just act like they are too important to deign to deal with something like this. Just come watch a test being adminstered and it will be obvious. They are allowed to get away with it because they pay the foreign tuition rate."

    "One student told me of how all the students not from China agreed not to speak one day to see what would happen. There was no class discussion and the teacher asked them not to do it again."

    - 2012/01/11

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